Time to Call a Moratorium on Muslim Political Involvement

I have said it before and I will say it again: We need a moratorium on Muslims in Western politics.

Consider this latest infograph from 5pillarsuk.com:

This is such a sad, embarrassing state of affairs.

In the US, the situation is arguably worse. Whenever our “Muslim representatives” aren’t introducing anti-Sharia legislation and making heretical statements referring to Allah as “she,” they are out dancing and partying at pride parades and taking selfies with drag queens.

You know, it is almost comical to think about the folks who were bloviating about Muslims “strategically allying” with LGBT groups, how “strategic” support of LGBT rights would have so many benefits for the Muslim community, blah blah blah. This idea was really nonsense to begin with, as I repeatedly pointed out. But you have to step back to appreciate it in its full nonsensical glory.

The most obvious thing is that to have a strategic alliance, you first have to have two organized political factions who want to ally together for their mutual benefit. And this is where the problem begins: Muslims don’t have an organized political faction. We have nothing even close to resembling that. So to even talk about alliances is a farce. A hoax. What the Muslim advocates of “strategic LGBT alliances” are really pushing is nothing more than acceptance of a leftist political agenda onto the Muslim community and garnishing it with fancy buzzwords and half-hearted Hudaybiya references to pull the wool over our eyes.

The reason Western Muslims are not a political faction can be explained as follows.

An organized political faction needs to have at least two things: Leadership and a political vision. Both these things require strong moral principles. Of course, a political vision requires moral principles. And, furthermore, a true leader is defined by, among other things, clear principles that he sticks to, especially when it is politically, financially, pragmatically inconvenient.

All of these things, sadly, are lacking in the Western Muslim community. Sure, you have certain figures — e.g., Compassionate Imams, academics, social justice warriors — pretending to be leaders. But they aren’t leaders. Not for Muslims, at least. Why? Because their work is not defined by strong moral principles, at least not uniquely Islamic ones. Sure, some of these figures do express commitment to strong principles, but they are just leftist principles, secularist principles, feminist principles, etc. The more creative figures work very hard to dress up these commitments in Islamic garb. They will cite ayat of the Quran or hadith (often mistranslated, taken out of context, etc.), give fiery khutbahs, and so forth.

But the true test of principle comes when Islam contradicts the leftist, secularist, feminist platform. In these moments, such figures have an opportunity to prove with whom their allegiance really lies. Are they going stand just as strongly, boldly when Islamic values are on the line? Are they going to throw those values under the bus? Or are they going to take the coward’s way out and remain silent?

Unfortunately, we have seen mostly the latter two.

Another way to put it: You are not going to prove to me, as a Muslim, that you are a leader of Muslims by, for example, marching for health care reform or refugees or black lives matter or workers’ rights, etc. Are these good causes that Muslims should support? Perhaps some of them are, depending on the details. But these are all very popular, well regarded components of the Democratic party platform. Even opposition to islamophobia is standard. So how can I tell that you are really standing for me as a Muslim and not just standing as a Democrat, pursuing your own personal political career? The only way to tell for certain is if you consistently stand in favor of Islam even when it contradicts the leftist platform. LGBT rights is the perfect test of that, but these figures keep striking out. It’s become a joke.

Which brings me to my question: Have we seen a Muslim politician or popular activist/imam type who openly diverged from his political party on an issue because of Islamic principles?

It’s a challenge really. Name one.

I certainly can’t.

So what is the point of voting for them, donating to them, etc., as opposed to voting for non-Muslims or (here’s a crazy thought) not voting/donating at all?

Let’s just assume, for the sake of argument, that democratic elections and Western secular governance is something permissible that Muslims can participate in. Let’s just table that larger debate for now. Or, let’s even raise the stakes. Let’s say that it is obligatory (wajib) for Muslims to vote (as some clueless “woke” imams and khatibs have claimed in recent years). Even assuming a shar`i obligation, why should Muslims favor Muslim politicians? Arguably, we should avoid supporting Muslim politicians in this case since, as history has shown, they inevitably end up violating basic Islamic principles.

And, yes, violation of Islamic principles matters. Don’t give me this swill about “They’re just representing their constituents!” If I have the ability to vote for a Muslim politician in an election, that means I am his constituent. That’s kind of the whole point of representational democracy. So, if this Muslim politician is not going to be governed by anything Islamic, then I might as well vote for any other non-Muslim. Their political outlooks will be indistinguishable, but at least the non-Muslim isn’t going to make a mockery of the deen.

So much for “Muslim political involvement.”

I guess calling it “Muslim political involvement” is giving it too much credit, now that I think about it. It’s more like “token Muslims pursuing their personal career ambitions in politics and fleecing the Muslim community in the process.” So, let’s call a moratorium on that.

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38 COMMENTS

  1. You need to tabulate your thoughts in this post in on a spreadsheet. Might help some less bright people grasp it better/quicker

    Objective: Minimize damage to Muslims to maximum extent possible

    (it is stupid to think a kafir state’s political system will work for the benefit of Muslims)

    First Scenario –

    Some variables based on the most popular opinion among a lot of Muslim citizens (well-intentioned ones with integrity, as well as those without any integrity at all) of kafir states:

    Option 1 – Right – Full Evil (will do maximum harm to Muslims) – 10 points

    Option 2 – Left – Lesser Evil (will not work for Muslim benefit, but will not do as much harm as the Right) – 1 point

    Option 3 – Not voting at all – Depending on who you ask and what the context is, this option could be

    a) Least Evil (outcome will minimize damage to Muslims to the maximum extent possible given the circumstances) – 0 points (desired outcome)

    b) Lesser Evil (same thing as voting Left) – 1 point

    c) Middle Evil (between voting Right & Left) – 5 points

    d) Full Evil (same thing as voting Right) – 10 points

    e) Fuller Evil (worse than voting right) – 15 points

    Second Scenario – Not so popular

    Option 1 – Right – Lesser Evil – 1 point

    Option 2 – Left – Full Evil – 10 points

    Option 3 – Not voting at all – once again, this will have a 5 choices for point allocation depending on who you ask and what the context is

    Third Scenario – The Right and Left are equally evil

    Option 1 – Right / Left – Full Evil – 10 points

    Option 2 – Not vote at all – depending on the context and who is asked

    a) Least Evil – 0 points (desired outcome)

    b) Full Evil (same thing as voting either side) – 10 points

    c) Fuller Evil – 15 points (worse than voting)

    You are making the point on your site that the correct scenario is Scenario 3, where both the Left and Right are Full Evil, and not voting being the Least Evil outcome.

    Plus your additional point that “Muslim” adab-imams, activists, politicians, etc. are just career diplomats in the larger political structure, so their “Muslim-ness” really is redundant, regardless if someone considers Scenario 1 (Left is Lesser Evil), Scenario 2 (Right is Lesser Evil), or 3 (Left & Right are Full Evil) – so the Muslims should really just drill it down to choosing from 3 options – a) Left b) Right c) Not Vote and leave the “TM-factor” out of it, TM being Token Muslim!

      • No. Statistics & Operations Research major some time back. Still love to put things into spreadsheets and do mathematical modeling just ‘coz it’s my body, my choice.

  2. Personally i’ve never seen any good come from it. Ironically, voting in these ‘muslim’ politicians only causes them to distance themselves from Islam. Over time their behaviour, voting patterns and general politics becomes increasingly non-islamic and even anti-islamic. Voting in these career politician isn’t good for the muslim community and it isn’t good for their own imaan.

    اِنَّ الَّذِيۡنَ يَشۡتَرُوۡنَ بِعَهۡدِ اللّٰهِ وَاَيۡمَانِهِمۡ ثَمَنًا قَلِيۡلًا اُولٰٓـئِكَ لَا خَلَاقَ لَهُمۡ فِى الۡاٰخِرَةِ وَلَا يُكَلِّمُهُمُ اللّٰهُ وَلَا يَنۡظُرُ اِلَيۡهِمۡ يَوۡمَ الۡقِيٰمَةِ وَلَا يُزَكِّيۡهِمۡ وَلَهُمۡ عَذَابٌ اَ لِيۡمٌ

    “Indeed, those who exchange the covenant of Allah and their [own] oaths for a small price will have no share in the Hereafter, and Allah will not speak to them or look at them on the Day of Resurrection, nor will He purify them; and they will have a painful punishment.”

    https://quran.com/3/77

  3. Actually just looking at their faces I support the LGBTQXYZ in their communities and schools. Who wants them to continue breeding? I say more power to them. I’ll infact donate to the cause in the hopes that the Ummah becomes more beautiful and pleasant looking.

    Now, if you have a problem with that line of thought….what makes you think the promotion of LGBTQXYZ intended purpose isnt exactly this to begin with Hmmmmmm… got you here didnt I?

    The promotion of eugenics sugarcoated in rainbows. There is no other biological and evolutionary explanation for it.

    Why would LIFE which basic function is to propagate introduce homosexuality, something that doesnt guarentee its continued existence? Unless life wants to weed out the undesirable genes so it gives them homosexuality?

    Dayyuth enablers on suicide watch.

    • Once homosexual culture becomes normalized in a society heterosexual relations and conduct start to strongly resemble homosexual behaviour:

      1. Dating (meeting in the night, getting intoxicated and then fornication)
      2. Casual sex (high number of premarital partners)
      3. Focus on the backside
      4. Anal penetration
      5. Fellatio (thus the rise in throat and anal cancer)
      6. A highly transactional view on sex
      7. culture of open lewdness and lack of shame

      Which results in…

      1. virtually nonexistence of virginity when entering marriage
      2. low marriage rates (why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free? as the saying goes)
      3. high divorce rates (i.e. highly volatile relations)
      4. extremely high rate of bastards in the population – awlaad al-haram. In many Western countries they form the majority of births
      5. high youth crime and overall youth dysfuntion
      6. overreliance on – mass – immigration to compensate for low native births
      7. rapidly changing culture
      8. rapid increase in social tensions
      10. rise of protest movements: Feminism, MGTOW, Incels, MRA’s, Altright, BLM, Antifa, The Identarian Movement etc.

      A society – highly – tolerant of gay culture will typically exhibit the points mentioned above. A culture which adopts it will slowly (sometimes even rapidly) eat itself.

      As J.D. Unwin demonstrated in his book ‘Sex and Culture’. Strong successful cultures are sexually conservative.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._D._Unwin

      Add to this the push to get women out of the home and into the workforce, the promotion of careerism under women, victimology, and ‘independence’ and you have a perfect storm. Which we can see in literally every Western country – extremely low birthrates among the native populations.

    • Prof. Edward Dutton actually has done research on this. Basically his theory is that the rise of atheism and negatively-selected traits (like homosexuality and autism which have a correlation with atheism) for genetic propagation in the West has to do with too much genetic mutational load that would have been eliminated by war, famine, disease, etc in the past. This is all in evolutionary parlance:
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DLZVsTf99gc

    • LMAO you fail to realize your Abu Lahab isn’t our Allah. You are blessed by Abu Lahab, that is it.

      Swines like you dont get far in life. Allah always exposes and destroys you degenerates.

      • Ali: And by the way, the majority of westerners are actually born within wedlock. Typical Haqiqatjou follower- making up your own “stats”.

        In 2014 alone, over 40% of all births in the US were to an unmarried mother. (Kearney and Wilson 2017).

      • Braying mule exposing her self saying Abu Lahab blesses people LOLLLLLL

        Go crawl back into the anus of a sodomite you parasite. You are a disgusting shirk committing follower of Abu LaFag. May Allah keep you barren like a desert and your womb filled with maggots. No child deserve to have a witch like you as a mother. If you are a man I hope your balls fall off since obviously they are uselss you sterile Abu LaFag worshipper. LOLLLLL

  4. I have been watching many videos of black American activists, professors etc. on Youtube for the past two years, think of Tariq Nasheed or Boyce Watkins, it is interesting to see the many similarities of what they preach to their communities with the situation of Muslims living in the West. These sell-outs among the Muslim community (like Ilhan Omar) are being called coons by the black activists, they also have coons claiming to represent the black community and urging them to vote Democrat, while the Democrats have done nothing to improve the situation of the black community in the past decades. One solution of these black activists to weed out the coons is the following: they now only focus on one issue, namely reparations. The first thing they focus on when a black candidate of the Democract comes preaching to them: are you for or against reparations? Against? Then be gone, coon! Next! You are not getting our votes. Bye bye Felicia. The issue of reparations is a sensitive issue, even for Bernie Sanders, so this issue is exposing the coons and puppets of the white supremacist Democrats. Even though I go for the boycot the shirk system-route, other Muslims who want to be politically active should do the same thing, focus on one important issue, that you know is sensitive for the white supremacist overlords of the Democratic Party, this way you can expose the “coons” so-called Muslim candidates who’s only job is to get you to vote for the DemocRats.

  5. Rasul-Allah (SAWS) told us the al Masih ad-Dajjal would come with what appears to be fire and what appears to be water. And that the fire would actually be water, and the water would actually be fire. So jump into Dajjal’s fire and cool off. This is what I think when I see the Demoncrat party telling Muslims, “Come with me,….after all, I’m your friend.” They are no friend to Muslims. They want to use Muslims for their own purpose. They are calling Muslims to play the victim, just like every other affinity group they claim to represent. There is no way to reason with them. As for the Republican party, they hate Muslims out of their own ignorance. They have been brainwashed by the media (another system of Dajjal) to fear terrorism. Now, this is something that can be changed. You can reason with them and it is possible (I’ll admit difficult) to change their minds. In the end, we must ally with Christians to fight that “third” enemy.

    • Generally agree here. I’ve been able to get more traction with people on the right (even alt-right) and conservatives once I can remove the ignorance (does take time and patience). I rarely get far with the Left. Once they drop that veneer of we-like-you-guys-as-a-minority, they get very incorrigible and very derisive.

      • The liberal will automatically begin to talk about abortion & gay marriage, and will not stop until you agree with them, or they curse you to your face and walk off to tell others what a bad person you are.

      • With conservatives, there is a period where they will think (and some tell others) that you are a terrorist. But eventually once they get to know you they realize that they have more in common than they first thought.

      • “Ali” is certainly a cisgender lady feminist or a transgender ladyboy feminist – with issues, and bad spelling! (repetative). No cisgender man, straight or gay, will ever say “Inshallah, no woman will ever marry you and inshallah you will never have any daughters.”

      • I think she is possessed by multiple jinns, each representing the letters in LGBTQ+ community. Seems each takes turn speaking through her. Sort of like “the Horde” from M. Night Shyamalan films but hers I will call “the Whorde”. We never know which one we are communicating with. Is it the lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, transsexual, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, ally, pansexual?

        Time call brother Hasanat, we need his services.

    • ali…you bloody poor rotting soul…Why dont u get lost instead of giving your highly ignorant comments..Save urself some burning in this life..
      Daniel Haqiqatajou and those who love him are def no ordinary ppl. They are blessed with an inner eye that scumbags like u cant even comprehend let alone give an opinion on it.
      Do what is prolly ur caliber. Supporting filth degeneracy and depravity.
      DH is way above n beyond ur worthless level..

      • Hahah a concubine shows up. You pathetic self righteous madrassa larkees are horrible scum. You love showing ofg how religious you are and need approval from these pathetic mens rights activists.
        I dont support any degeneracy. You sick animal freaks have no authority to even comment on what is degeneracy.

        Get lost.

    • Why are you putting my name in quotes? Abu Lahab come in your dream and tell you to do that?
      I dont support MPV but compared to you animals, they are still much closer to Allah.

      • Let me take your bait @”Ali”

        So in your opinion, everyone here is a degenerate pimp or a concubine. Noted.

        Now go on, you give us YOUR representation of a perfect Islamic line of thought.

        Tell me – what school of thought, sect, group, organization etc. it is that you represent?

        Give me at least one contemporary personality’s name of such a scholar, activist, leader etc., a perfect representative of Islam, a perfect inheritor of the knowledge of the Prophet & Sahaba – someone, who in your opinion, is not an evil, pathetic, degenerate.

        Go on. Educate us all.

  6. “this issue is exposing the coons and puppets of the white supremacist Democrats.”

    Taken from a pretty good comment overall by one of the brothers.

    However, what most Muslims in the West seem to be very, very ignorant of, is ***who*** controls what. This is why I quoted this part of the comment.

    The Zionist Yahood control the Democrat Party – not white supremacists, lol (the biggest donor to the Dem party is Israel 1st fanatic Haim Saban). Same thing RE the Republican Party (and other parties in the Zionist/ZOG West).

    And FYI, the Yahood don’t really like white non-Muslim gentiles anyway, but will use them for their wars or Zio-Crusades against Muslim nations as cannon fodder, just as the Leftist Yahood will use “Muslim” leaders to push an anti-white and/or anti-Christian, pro-immigration sentiment, and this is seen in America where you get almost all Muslims cucking for illegal Kuffar immigrants only b/c they’re POC, and sticking up for LGBTQPs against Christians (Nasara), only b/c the Nasara are white, lol.

    And it must also be understood that the Yahood were behind Communism, Marxism, Cultural Marxism, PERIOD. Or put another way, most of the leftish movements. And ironically they’re also behind a lot of the rightist movements of course having hijacked conservatism w/ neo-Trotskyism (Neo or Zio-conservatism).

    There are many good and righteous Yahood of course; don’t misunderstand me, but we have to not be afraid to be non-PC.

    The fact is, is a lot of these things affecting Muslims in the West that we often talk about – Feminism, LGBTQPism, even CRT (black and other POC Kuffar got these Kufric ideas from their Judeo-Marxist brothers), abortion, atheism, bringing down the (white) “Patriarchy,” etc., all comes from the same people.

    Yes, the Yahood. Not all Yahood obviously, but to not even be aware of the origins of these movements is ridiculous IMO. Muslims need to stop being so afraid/PC to talk about some of this or if they don’t know, educate themselves inshaAllah.

    Also, the Zionist Yahood pretty much control the media – including the Kosher “conservative” Ziocon, Islamophobic media, such as Faux News, Breitfart, etc., and yet again, Muslims (only in the WEST though!), seem to not even be aware of this basic “water is wet” fact! lol

    Why do we think Allah (swt) has warned us against (some) Yahood?

    Surah Al-Ma’idah [5:64]

    And the Jews say, “The hand of Allah is chained.” Chained are their hands, and cursed are they for what they say. Rather, both His hands are extended; He spends however He wills. And that which has been revealed to you from your Lord will surely increase many of them in transgression and disbelief. And We have cast among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. Every time they kindled the fire of war [against you], Allah extinguished it. And they strive throughout the land [causing] corruption, and Allah does not like corrupters.

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