Progressive Muslims Are Pathetic

The most cowardly people are Muslim progressives, reformers, liberals, SJWs, etc. They are absolutely nothing without the cultural backing that affirms their stupid opinions on Islam and life in general.

If the most powerful state and culture in the world weren’t liberal, secular, feminist, etc., they would have nothing to stand on. Most of them probably wouldn’t even bother with their causes because there wouldn’t be any money, power, and influence to gain from them, or they wouldn’t have been indoctrinated by those state institutions and cultural structures to begin with.

On many occasions, like-minded friends, colleagues, and I have tried to engage with them on an intellectual basis, in good faith. Most of them just run away, tail betwixt legs, as soon as they realize that their usual cliches aren’t going to cut the mustard.

Others double down on their bullying tactics. Appeals to authority appeal to emotion, and other fallacies spew from them like an overflowing toilet bowl clogged by its own self-righteous indignation. “HOW DARE YOU,” is their common refrain.

Then there are the dishonest interlocutors who play dumb, move the goalposts, hack at strawmen, change the subject, concoct false analogies, and use every other tactic they can to avoid confronting the devastating challenges made to their moronic views.

All this is ironic because these individuals also fancy themselves so brave, so counter-culture, so free-thinking, so enlightened, so intelligent. Yeah, you’re really courageous for parroting all the central doctrines of liberal secularism, the most powerful humanly force in the world today. You deserve a medal!

In reality, their façade comes crashing down with the softest breeze. At which point they cry for mommy, i.e., the muscular power of the state and cultural pressure, reporting you to Facebook, reporting you to state authorities, trying to get you in trouble elsewhere, etc.

Pathetic losers the whole lot.

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36 COMMENTS

  1. “All this is ironic because these individuals also fancy themselves so brave, so counter-culture, so free-thinking, so enlightened, so intelligent. Yeah, you’re really courageous for parroting all the central doctrines of liberal secularism, the most powerful humanly force in the world today. You deserve a medal!”

    This

  2. Subhan Allah.

    This sums up their attitudes well.

    Indeed, they behave like they are on the haqq and anyone who opposes them are backwards and “disgusting”, all because they have the backing of institutions (gov’t, universities, schools, etc.). As soon as you confront them with textual or logical proof, they run away.

  3. 🤣🤣 are you butthurt? Your fee feels get hit? Crazy thing is you’ve found something you’ll be bothered by(also a gaurenteed career) the rest of your life because nothings going to regress back to the savage ways of that man Mohammed and his ignorant teachings. Nonetheless you should realize that there’s almost nothing you can do to change things. Man this is so entertaining seeing you spazz 😂😂😂😂

      • I’m good, I left Islam without academic papers so I’m sure I can figure out basic concepts without them too. Islam is boringly basic.

    • Res herring. I was talking about your comment to the article which was basically „butthurt! crazy! savage!“, no actual arguments just ad hominems. But I don’t expect any intellectual arguments from Murtads really, lost hope in that too long ago :/

      • That’s not my problem lol why would I argue with someone spazzing because they believe in a regressive dogma. For nonsense like this you have to realize it’s beneath you.

    • Red herring after red herring. I was saying that you were making ad hominems and bringing no arguments. This is not about my belief this is about this article. Lol, unimpressed :/

      • There’s literally nothing to argue against Daniels takes because they’re nonsense. And I don’t care what you believe in. No one does. The reason I brought up Islam is because it literally has everything to do with Daniel’s position. “ If the most powerful state and culture in the world weren’t liberal, secular, feminist, etc., they would have nothing to stand on”. Like wtf am I suppose to reply to nonsense like that with? Facts? 😭😭😭😭 thats literally a sentence that has no value. Almost this entire article is riddled with nonsense like this.

    • LOL. I was talking about why you bring up what I believe in. This article is about Daniels position not about me being Muslim. Again you bring no arguments. Red herrings, fallacies and ad-hominems. That is it. I have given up all hope to once have a conversation with an intellectual and intelligent Ex-Muslim, looks like I am not finding anyone soon :/

      • Your belief is irrelevant to me but I’m definitely interested in Daniels. I’m not replying to you unless you make an interesting active claim I can disagree with.

    • How dumb does one have to be to spell “guaranteed career” wrong when the text box you’re typing in has spell check built-in and gives you a red squiggly line under your misspelled word?
      We’re talking about the level of dumbness that is seen in people whose job title is ex-Muslim and they troll on Muslim forums because they have nothing else to do in their sad lives.

  4. Malik related to me that he heard that Isa ibn Maryam used to say, “Do not speak much without the mention of Allah for you will harden your hearts. A hard heart is far from Allah, but you do not know. Do not look at the wrong actions of people as if you were lords. Look at your wrong actions as if you were slaves. Some people are afflicted by wrong action and some people are protected from it. Be merciful to the people of affliction and praise Allah for His protection.”

    USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 56, Hadith 8
    Arabic reference : Book 56, Hadith 1821

    I don’t think this strategy of attacking specific group of muslims is good. We should show compassion to others; while explaining why the Truth of Islam is better than any other man-made falsehood.

    • Since these innovations are so obviously contrary to Islam and quite abnormal, and these people are introducing something new to the religion and follow liberal ideas instead of what Islam commands, we should be highlighting the severity of what these people are doing to get the message out there how dangerous it is. If we stay passive, these issues will just spread, and what will we do after that, keep staying passive until Islam is eroded enough in our community that God replaces us? No, rather it is natural for a mu’min to react strongly to these liberal innovations, and it’s good as well for Islam, for our Islam and by extension our future. So what brother Daniel here is doing is very good, alhamdulillah that we have people speaking up. There is no room for passivity when people are doing innovation and contradicting Islam in such a public and barefaced way, following liberal ideologies rather than Allah. It’s so obvious and shameless. May Allah guide them, I hope they one day understand the absurdity and severity of their deeds. If not, may Allah expose them further.

      You should probably read about the hadeeths related to innovators in the Deen and what will happen to these people in the day of judgment, there is no compassion in being passive while people are getting swallowed by the fire.

      Narrated Jabir bin ‘Abdullah (RA):
      Whenever Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) delivered a Khutbah (religious talk), his eyes would become red, his voice rose and his anger would become intensified, as if he (ﷺ) was like one warning an army and saying, “The enemy has made a morning attack on you. The enemy has made an evening attack on you.” He (ﷺ) would also say “Amma ba’du, the best of speech is embodied in the Book of Allah, and the best of guidance is the guidance of Muhammad. And the most evil of affairs are their innovations and every innovation is misguidance.” [Reported by Muslim].

      Sunnah.com reference: Book 2, Hadith 368
      English translation: Book 2, Hadith 448
      Arabic reference: Book 2, Hadith 451

      • I do not disagree with explaining the wrongs in feminism, liberalism or any other secular ideology. However, muslims should make sure to have humility and compassion in such endeavor.
        Understand that you were guided to truth not because of your intellect but because of Allah mercy. Distinguish between those that try to distort Islam on purpose and the confused masses. Call every muslim to the Truth, the way you will call your own blood.

    • Totally agree. And to Allah is our return and He will inform each and everyone us of what we use to do/say and utter. So be wise and say good words, because good words beggots good people insha Allah.

  5. Muslims were “progressive” long before the west was in power. The mutazillah and ex muslim rationalists like al razi and al maari certainly didnt get their inspiration from europe. They just understood, as any person understands, that claims to dogma and piety and superstition and sharia are absurd to say the least. Even mohammed’s time had the ridda wars because many rebelled against the disgusting and false claims of dogmatic islam.

    • The ridda wars started after the death of the Prophet. The reason wasn’t because people rejected “dogmatic islam”. The battles started because people refused to pay the zakaat.

      Somewhat comparable with the IRS knocking on your door if you try evading paying taxes.

  6. and as a follow-up, since you’re so cerebral and clever (as i think you are, though you direct your impressive IQ towards defending the garbage dump of Islam), i challenge you or whoever reads this to go through Ibn Warraq’s “Why I am not a Muslim” — a thick, scholarly, academic work going into not just Islam, but related religions of the time (christianity, judaism, and the zoroastrian faiths). it focuses on the best sources available about the actual origins of the Quran and Hadith (they weren’t divinely inspired, surprise!) and examines the merits and weaknesses of Islam. The author is a Pakistani academic who was a devout Islamist (the kind you would approve of) who decided to do his homework about the faith.

    don’t worry about cost or availability, here’s the full text:
    http://www.conflicts.rem33.com/images/books/Ibn%20Warraq%20-%20Why%20I%20Am%20Not%20a%20Muslim.pdf

    • Ah yes, another murtad twit who thinks that Muslims have not “researched” their religion. Believe it or not we have. Hence, we have conviction in it. That is the first thing I did when I reached the age of discernment. Because the last thing I wanted was to believe in something just because my parents did. Islam has answered all my questions in a manner that no other ideology can ever hope to. There is no doubt in its superiority. There is no doubt that it is the truth.

      So here’s a tip for you. Given that I assume you’re an atheist, why don’t you go live your only life and stop wasting your time with us “backwards” individuals? Or is it perhaps that while you claim to have left Islam, you are still so insecure that you have to pop up on Islamic sites and try to convince others about your beliefs? Do you hope that more people joining you will assuage your insecurity and doubt? Unlike Muslims you have no incentive to convert others to your belief, so why are you trying exactly?

      As for your claims about the rebellions of Muslims in older times. The story has always been the truth of Islam versus the falsehood of man-made ideologies. That has been the cycle throughout history. Just like those groups failed to harm Islam, so to will you fail. Bottom line is, go follow your white masters’ man-made ideologies and we will continue to follow the Truth from the Creator.

      • Exactly! Thank you brother. Like do they not understand Islam has monopoly over all things moral. Anything that doesn’t follow Islam will sure FAIL! Like what’s wrong with non muslims? Why are they so lost? Islam is perfect which is why it runs everything in the world. Which is why the top countries in the world are religious. Which is why the leaders of knowledge in the biggest schools globally and the leaders in science and technology and arts today are all muslims!! Like look around you muslims have been the reason everything is so glorious today! So Murtad with Mustard, what do you say to that?

      • Love you bro. Agree, perhaps Ahmed should live his life without making a mock of his former belief. Alhamdulilah that He kept us on His chosen path..because Allah chooses His servents from among humanity and if you have not been chosen then Allah is everwise and He knows well what is within your heart.

      • So here’s a tip for you. Given that I assume you’re an atheist, why don’t you go live your only life and stop wasting your time with us “backwards” individuals? Or is it perhaps that while you claim to have left Islam, you are still so insecure that you have to pop up on Islamic sites and try to convince others about your beliefs?
        💯💯
        Lol so true 😂😂😂

    • I read Ibn Warraqs works back in 2010-2016 and he left me quit unimpressed. If he is the reason you left than you surely can be convinced of any lies out there too :/

      • I don’t know who that is. And yes I can be convinced of any lies if I’m indoctrinated. Which I was when I was born into Islam.

  7. Exactly! Thank you brother. Like do they not understand Islam has monopoly over all things moral. Anything that doesn’t follow Islam will sure FAIL! Like what’s wrong with non muslims? Why are they so lost? Islam is perfect which is why it runs everything in the world. Which is why the top countries in the world are religious. Which is why the leaders of knowledge in the biggest schools globally and the leaders in science and technology and arts today are all muslims!! Like look around you muslims have been the reason everything is so glorious today! So Murtad with Mustard, what do you say to that?

    • Ah yes, science, technology and arts define success in your tiny mind. And which top countries in the world are you referring to? China and it’s genocidal regime, the US and its imperialistic obsession with Oil? Twits like you just ramble about success when you cannot even define what it is.

      And yes, Islam does have a monopoly over all things moral, as it is the only system in the world which can be proven to be from a Divine source. Let me spell it out for you, since I know you lack the common sense. No man-made system can claim credibly to define morality. It is literally one person’s opinion over another. Islam makes no such claim. It claims to be Divine, and has the proof to back it up. God does have a monopoly over morality and truth because He created those things in the first place. There is one truth, and whatever belief system represents that is by default a monopoly.

      But let’s get back to my original point. Just like the other murtad twat, what are you doing on an Islamic site? Why are you so insecure that you are spending what you believe to be your only life on sites of what you deem false beliefs? I’ve never felt the need to go to a Christian site, or Hindu site or Athiest site, because I know its a waste of my time. Yet here you are, arguing like no tomorrow.

      Tell you what, rather than bitching around why don’t you give any definitive proof that Islam is false. Go on.

      • God doesn’t have monopoly over morality, it’s abstract like everything else we created, subjective. We created god. We created Allah. Islam is a man made system. Allah and Islam is your truth not the truth just how Buddhism is a Buddhist’s truth. Oh and I can bitch about almost anything and oh boy does Daniel make some entertaining nonsense that contribute to nothing. This is very entertaining so even if I wanted to stop I can’t. ITS LIKE CRACK🤤🤤. I’m very comfortable with my insecurities so you’ll see me here again when I’m bored.

        I, and probably everyone, don’t care what you do with your time, so go visit those sites if you want to🤷

        And for secular countries vs religious counties please refer to this.
        https://youtu.be/QQptrBKa8aQ

      • ‘Ahmad’ since you don’t believe in Allah..have you read this verse in the quran…”Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?” Do you watch a show called the Big Bang Theory? Well here it is repeated in the above verse..waaaaaayyyyyy before the US/Europe/others made this discovery spending $trillions. A great man asked that it be written down some 14 centuries ago, without any education or schooling..this is why I am Muslim today because the very ssound systems and science that man have stumbled upon is consistent with Islam.

  8. God doesn’t have monopoly over morality, it’s abstract like everything else we created, subjective. We created god. We created Allah. Islam is a man made system. Allah and Islam is your truth not the truth just how Buddhism is a Buddhist’s truth. Oh and I can bitch about almost anything and oh boy does Daniel make some entertaining nonsense that contribute to nothing. This is very entertaining so even if I wanted to stop I can’t. ITS LIKE CRACK🤤🤤. I’m very comfortable with my insecurities so you’ll see me here again when I’m bored.

    I, and probably everyone, don’t care what you do with your time, so go visit those sites if you want to🤷

    And for secular countries vs religious counties please refer to this.
    https://youtu.be/QQptrBKa8aQ

    • Lots of claims without any backing. Once again give one shred of evidence or proof that Islam is man-made. What is your proof that Allah is a man-made concept? Still waiting. If you reply without any proof it just proves what we all know already, you’re full of crap, without any clue what you’re talking about.

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