Ustadh Daniel Haqiqatjou recently debated Aaron Ra, an ardent representative of idiotic atheism. Ra argued the typical nonsensical rubbish that we are so accustomed to hearing from new atheism. As one of his actual arguments, he said that atheists have higher IQ scores than theists, attempting to demonstrate how atheism is true but theists are ultimately just too stupid to understand this “fact.”
Here are some interesting statistics (taken from a 2019 Forbes article) that we can show Aaron and his ilk:
This comparison between the current IQ scores with the number of Nobel Prize winners and the standardized school level of each country is interesting. Why? Because it is supposed to provide an indication of where each country is situated intellectually, past; present; and future.
Nobel Prizes illustrate the intellectual prowess of those who were educated yesterday. IQs reveal the intellectual capabilities of the current population. School levels indicate the potential of the next generation.
In addition to this, these metrics are generally accepted by atheists themselves, and there is no greater satisfaction than beating an opponent at their own game. As for us, as Muslims, we shouldn’t afford too much credit to these tests, especially since they often conceal a lot of antagonistic, normative criteria under the false pretense of neutral descriptivism.
Keep in mind that the Nobel Prizes are a very biased and controversial institution which is known to have, throughout its history, favored certain select demographics over others. As for IQ scores, they were developed by materialistic atheists that hold a subjective view of what constitutes “valuable cognitive capacities” and what does not.
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Scientific theories and models are always changing, and no psychiatrist in the world to date can claim to have developed an exhaustive and comprehensive theory of intelligence. The study of intelligence is a field that contains many competing theories and models. To rely so heavily on such shallow metrics is already an L for atheists.
In any case, the statistics displayed above provide us with an interesting conclusion regarding the correlation between religiosity and intelligence. Contrary to the claims and predictions of these know-it-all atheists, many liberal and atheistic countries are actually in intellectual decline. For instance, consider France, which has one of the largest non-religious populations in the world and is declining rapidly in terms of intelligence. Look also at how low the Czech Republic is on the board, while being one of the most atheistic countries in the world.
In fact, the intellectual decline of these atheistic countries could very well indicate the exact opposite of what they claim. If we follow their line of thinking, irreligiosity may actually be correlated with stupidity. Now I must admit myself that this would not be a very reliable conclusion. The reason for this is that these changes are more likely an indication that Nobel Prizes, IQs and School Levels are linked to socioeconomic factors.
This just goes to show just how incompetent these atheists really are. They try to establish all kinds of corresponding links in order to try and score points, but they refuse to confront the hollowness of their empty philosophy.
There is a valuable lesson to be taken away here:
Don’t be fooled by random statistics presented to you by insincere perverted morons, and always thoroughly scrutinise their shallow arguments.
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I don’t support the regime of Iran but I saw the USA placed the IQ of Iranians at 80 or below in census a few years ago. According to their own standards, it’s mental retardation. Yet they sh*t themselves that Iran might get the atomic bomb, I didn’t know “mentally handicapped brown people” were able to create such an advanced weapon.
It’s all propaganda. IQ if it was even real is counterbalanced by nutrition and education at the young age.
Becoming Hafiz when very young raises the IQ
Look, Iran can be a literal riot any day of the week, but at least I can actually hear them say something without shoving liberal talking points down my throat
And for the west to treat them like dirt only to shit themselves when they realize that Iran will soon have nukes is simply incompetent and racist EVEN BY THEIR OWN RETARTED STANDARDS
Bro this comment is too funny lol.
“Yet they sh*t themselves that Iran might get the atomic bomb” 😂
They claim they are the smartest and we are dumb savages and we are subraces because we aren’t white or asian. In reality, they are the dumbest because of their indoctrination. Ask any of them simple things like what is morality, does God exists, where we come from, what is good and evil, what defines good and evil, how can you know such and such is good or evil in a atheistic mindset and they will crumble and show their stupidity.
They are good worker bees but dumb independent actors.
Why of course lol, how else they could get people into wanting to become cogs for their massive war machine?
They slowly but surely become robots figuratively and literally.
Human companionship? Forget that just replace it with anime A.I
Free will? What’s that? Install this microchip in your brain right now citizen!
It appears the West has decided to go with the stellaris mechanical ascension path 100’s of years early
But whatever, let them destroy themselves, they will eventually realize how wrong they all were, whether there would still be time for redemption is something only allah knows
Hmm, what a surprise that the western made intelligence system favors the west
It’s almost like it was designed to favor the west
If we look at Nobel Prizes than Israel should have the highest average IQ in the world since Ashkenazis are both heavily overrepresented in the Israeli population (± 30% of the total pop.) and among Nobel Prize winners (± 20% of total prizes). But with an average of 92 they have a relatively low IQ.
High IQ nations like China, Japan and South Korea are massively underrepresented among Nobel Prize winners.
M8 i agree with the premise atheists are dumb
But this was an incredibly weak article
You have to have strong counter argument.
Example: ibn al haytham founder of science, optics and the unbiaded experimentation method
Ibn sina founder of medicine. Alrizmi, founder of algorithms
Algebra, other maths and inventions, light is a wave, atmosphere is finite, All by 9th century Muslims
There was a recent muslim lady in malaysia or indonesia who created a heart bypass method.
Not a peep
brother, the example figures you gave can be countered with being mere outliers, when an athiest argues, as Ra did, he is not suggesting that there can’t be High IQ muslims, ofcourse there were and inshallah there will be, he is attempting to correlate Islam ( or religion in general ) with Intelligence. On that point the article was quite decent, it could’ve been more comprehensive, however the focus was clear.
Ibn Sina was not a Muslim. He was a Batini Qaramite.
Simple.
Compare the memory power, intelligence, wisdom, discernment and way someone who studies Hadith lives versus the smartest, most accomplished Atheist you know.
Who is going to have the better ending?
They say free will is an illusion. But they don’t realise that if free will is an illusion, intelligence, rationality, good, evil, etc, are all illusions too.